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last-minute deal making. and to put the politics of this immigration crisis in -- risked her life as a child to make that decembsperate journey. this is tuesday, the 31st of july. >> we have periodic gatherings where we sit down in informal discussions, chamber to chamber, enjoy a little pizza. >> so you expect leadership to put dock on this bill? >> there is not a lot of support for the leadership bill.
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there is support for the doca fix. >> late night political intrigue at the nation's capitol. our first focus this morning is a rush to recess in washington. right now on the hill, there's a last-minute flurry of activity as lawmakers try to tie up a lot of unfinished business including a bill deal with the situation at the border. speaker john boehner was hoped to have something passed to show the house is dealing with the situation, but he's once again trying to corral a raucous caucus. this whole thing got a lot more complicated because of senator ted cruz, the senator claimed it was just meeting of friends, but it could be another conservative revolt with many demanding something be done about what they see as the president's overreach. so today the house will vote on not one but two immigration bills. one a scaled down version to deal with kids coming across the border, and the second to stop president obama and the deferred
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action for childhood arrivals program. otherwise known as docca. >> tomorrow there's a good chance that the house is going to vote on ending president obama's amnesty. >> over in the senate, things are dicey too. democrats hoping to pass their $2.7 billion border bill, but they're running out of time. joining me is barbara boxer, what is the current stand with the boarder bill, even democrats voted not to proceed with the debate. >> we had enough votes to proceed to the debate, but i have to tell you, the top of your show was very important. because things have taken a very dark, dark turn, with ted cruz and the republicans and the republicans in the house meeting and from what i understand, they're going to end the whole wonderful action the president
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took to make sure that dreamers, the young people who were actually born in this country, or came to this country at very, very young ages, 2 years old, 3 years old, 1 year old. went to school here, even went into the military, that they could stay here. imagine the dark turn that that has taken. and to attach that that hi can no longer save these young people, many of whom are from my state who graduate with honors from universities across california that they now would be put back into the shadows. that their parents could never get a chance to stay here. i cannot believe this. i don't know if you saw "the wizard of oz" but it's an old movie that comes back again. some people in congress have no heart like the tin man. i want to help them find a heart. every year in this country, we take in a million permanent
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legal residents. can't we deal with these 56,000 children? can't we just give them their justice? and if they have families here, get them a chance to reunite? i cannot believe what is happening here, jose, and i'm so glad you've been focused on this. >> well, thank you, senator, and i'm just wondering what the heck legislators are doing, let's talk about focus, you're all ready to go on recess and really nothing seems to be able to get done on this issue that has you say is critical, not only to border states, but around the country. >> let me be clear, i'm not getting ready to go on recess. we need to stay as long as it takes. it's interesting. the house has no time to do anything, anything, but yet they have time to sue the president of the united states, costing taxpayers millions of dollars, and because he's doing his job. and they don't like the job he's doing, it's called elections. elections have consequences. they tried their best.
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lord knows, you know, i have been here a long time, i have served with five presidents, several of them were republican and, you know, you work with them the best you can. you don't try to sue them or impeach them. >> let me bring you back to the lack of possibility of any kind of bipartisanship on most anything. but let's talk about for example this 2008 law that was a bipartisan law, it was signed into law in december of 2008 by president bush. >> yes. >> so now what are the changes that you think should be or should not be occurring to this law which deals with these 58,000 children you just spoke about. >> i don't believe you need to change this law. i mean i'm happy -- if it means bringing people together, we could look at it around the edges, but the law is clear, when children come, they deserve to be treated humanely, make their case, if they have a case to be -- to stay here, they stay here, if they don't, they're sent back. and all that senator mcculsky,
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and if i could just praise her for her leadership on this emergency appropriations bill. all she says is let's put money toward keeping them in safe places and placing them -- by the way, most of them will be placed and some of them will go back to their original countries. that's all that that 2008 law says, treat them humanely, give them their day in court. my goodness. i know every single member of congress, whether you're a democrat or republican, you revere your children, your grandchildren, your nieces, your nephews, just close your eyes for a minute and think about, you know, there but for the grace of god. and, you know, again, i don't know where the heart is in the republican party. i really don't. not only are they not acting on helping those children and resolving their cases, but now they're trying to take away the president's power to help the dreamers, those young people who came here through no fault of
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their own. >> and senator, those young people who don't know another country but the united states. >> one year, two years ago. >> thank you so much for being with us, senator, it's a pleasure speaking with you. >> thank you. >> and now from across the aisle, joining me is texas republican congress michael burgess. thank you senator for being with us. you heard the senator saying you guys simply don't have a heart. what is going on that you're about to go on recess and you can't seem to put something together to deal with this crisis, which we can all agree is a crisis affecting everyone? >> first off let me say i do agree, the date to go on recess is entirely arbitrary and can certainly be changed. this is one nebraskmember of co that's willing to stay until we get a solution. at the end of the day, although the house and the senate may pass bills, i don't believe we're on our way to a solution. you go back and look at the
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data. it was shortly after the president unilaterally made a decision to selectively enforce immigration law. yes, he has the ability to under go the prosecution, the prosecu prosecute torl -- unfortunately, you look, the state accident actually puts limits on the number of little refugees this country takes in every year. i right now i think that top number is 70,000. now this year, there's been 58,000 unaccompanied minors, they are not counted under that cap that the state department sets. so we have effectively doubled our population because of the president's action. i don't think the president understood that this was going to be a consequence. but let's be honest, a family down in central america cannot
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dissect through the nuances of a presidential directive. coyotes have taken that situation and they're advertising on television. you can take the 58,000 who are here, but it's the next 58,000 who are going to be the problem. >> docca is not a new thing that's happened this year, it's already going on its third year, and during those first go years, years, there wasn't 58,000 unaccompanied children crossing the border from central america to the united states of america. so something additional had to happen. the issue is, i'm just wondering, if you're dealing with that as being the big target that you're looking at, something that happened three years ago and you're not dealing with what's going on today or how to deal with this issue tomorrow, it seems as though you're just looking at
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yesterday's newspapers and not worried about tomorrow. >> that's absolutely not true. the problem is you can't deal with the problem if you don't interrupt the flow. and the president himself did say, i was grateful that he said it. i wish he had been a little bit more clear, a little bit more forthright. he said no, don't misunderstood, your children will not be able to stay. it may take them four years to actually be repatriated. but the president did make that statement. jose, i wish the president would come to the border of texas. if he did, you know very well that every media outlet in the western hemisphere would be trained on his speech after he came out of one of those border intake facilities as i have done. when the president looks in the cameras, if he would say, please mothers and fathers in central america, do not send your children on this journey. they won't get to stay, we will send them home, that will immediately reverse the flow and then allow us the opportunity to solve this crisis.
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bill clinton did it right before he was inaugurated. >> that may be true, and i'm not saying it is or it isn't because you have complete authority to have your opinion. but i'm going to ask you, if you have a small child in a backward town in guatemala, and you see gang members raping your sister or killing your brother, and then they're coming after you, do you think that what a politician, be it the president or a congressman or a journalist saying don't come here is going to be more important than you trying to save your life and have a future for your family? >> let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. look, if it's just a question of going and rescuing children in central america, if their governments are so failed they can't take care of their own population, perhaps the president should send a boat down to pick them up. don't send them on top of a train across mexico.
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that's heartless. that's being complicit in child trafficking. the president has no business being an enabler in that institution. >> congressman, i can't thank you enough for being with us this morning. i thank you very much for your time. i want to take you live, the leader of the minority, nancy pelosi is having a press conference, let's go to some of that. >> today to follow up on their tirade against the poor children. they have a bill that is so bad but it's not bad enough for some of their outside groups to whom they pander. and so in order to sweeten the pie for them, and intensify the harm for the children, they have added another bill to follow the supplemental that they have on the floor. the supplemental does not track humanitarian assistance, due process. assistance to repatriate these
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children back to their own countries in a safe way. it only tracks more on the border without helping to resolve the humanitarian challenge that we have. and again, if that bill were not bad enough, they're saying to their members, unless you vote for this terrible bill, even though you don't think it's terrible enough, you're not going to get a chance to tie the president's hands when it comes to using his discretion and executive authority. to improve the situation. then of course, we have the highway bill. a bill that comes to us from the senate, with strong bipartisan support. a majority -- >> nancy pelosi live this morning on capitol hill as lawmakers get ready to take their five-week long summer recess. we're going to take a short break, but first we'll go out to the middle east where israel has just called up 16,000 reservists
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♪ sleep train ♪ ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ israel's vowing not to let off the pressure inside gaza, prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel will destroy the hamas tunnels with or without a cease-fire. the u.n. security council is meeting right now to talk about the situation in the middle east. amman, let's start with you. >> reporter: good morning, jose, well the situation here on the ground continues to be very dire for the palestinian people, another day of fighting and
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intense israeli -- pushed the death toll up to at least 39. some of those bodies discovered in areas further south of the territory were actually bodies killed several days ago, but for the first time, families and paramedics were able to go back and recover some of those bodies and put them to rest. so there is the ongoing fighting, but there's also a chance for people here to try and go about getting their hands on the basic necessities they need to make it through another day. there has been no political movements on the diplomatic front to give people a sense of hope. what seems to be happening at least from what we're hearing from both the palestinian factions on the ground and at least some close to the military wing is that fighters are still very much trying to attack israeli positions inside the gaza strip. a short while ago, members of the islamic jihad have claimed responsibility for firing mortar rounds into israeli positions
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and the israeli military is aga common traiting over the last 24 hours, very much another violent day of intense shelling but one that has brought a human toll for the people of gaza. >> let's turn over to martin fletcher. military leaders say the mission to destroy those hamas tunnels should be completed by monday or tuesday. what happens then? >> reporter: that's a good question, what happens then? well at that point, the israeli prime minister who today made a statement saying that israel's goal is to continue fighting until they eliminate the threat from secret tunnels. when they have done that, then the possibility arises that it will be more open to a cease fire. that means israel has narrowed
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it's objective somewhat. earlier in the fighting, israel said they wouldn't stop until they could force the gaza strip to be demilitarized, until there was no more rocket threat from gaza. now it seems to be narrowing focus on the tunnels, saying we will consider a cease-fire, but only when the tunnel threat has been eliminated. they have found about 32 tunnels, those tunnels that lead from gaza into israel allowing hamas fighters to come behind the israeli lines and then to attack civilians and soldiers inside israel. now that is a major threat to israel. not only militarily, but to the psychology of the people who live in that area. the people who live in the surrounding areas of gaza, within tunnel reach are living in great fear. about half of the people in that area have in fact fled the region to safer places in the north of israel. so it's absolutely imperative for israel, from its point of view to stop the tunnel threat.
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and interestingly, even though the fighting is now in its fourth week, when you think that people would become tired of it. the prime minister netanyahu has about 90% support until the tunnel threat is destroyed. >> martin fletcher in tel aviv. >> usef joins us this morning. this morning the front page of the "new york times" says arab leaders viewing hamas has worst than israel stay silent, the paper points out that despite the death and destruction inside gaza, there's very little outrage from the arab world. why is that? >> i think it's rather remarkable that, you know, suddenly the opinions of arab leaders who themselves are repressing populations through, you know, very authoritarian tactics, suddenly have a
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pedestal to stand on and comment on the heinous attacks that are happening against the civilian population in the gaza strip. i'm more concerned in fact with the reaction throughout the middle east that the popular level, which has continued to be very much supportive of palestinians, even if that does not translate, of course, to the level of leadership which has very cynical political interests that are more geared towards survival than they are towards actually representing the will of the people. >> and i'm just wondering, because, you know, public opinion no doubt in the arab world has to see what's going on in gaza and oppose this. but, you know, the fact that israel's been receiving thousands of rockets from it's neighboring area, how do you deal with that and how do you not say, well, listen, i understand -- it's a horrible
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thing that's going on in gaza, any time children die, it's horrible. but this is not -- didn't come out of thin air, it's the fact that israel's been receiving thousands of rockets. isn't that an issue that we should all be talking about as well? >> well, i think you know very well that to address problems like this, you have to deal with the root causes here and nobody wakes up one morning in the gaza strip and says, gee, you know, it's a great day to launch some rockets today for no reason whatsoever. there's a context here and that context is the ongoing military occupation of palestinian territory and the siege of the gaza strip which collectively punished 1.8 million palestinians there. so i think there is a different way of dealing with this and that's dealing with the legitimate grievances of the palestinians on the ground. this continued denial of self-determination for palestinians, the continued restrictions on their freedom of movement, freedom of access,
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their basic rights, their basic human necessities, is only going to generate the kind of reaction you're seeing today time and time again. i think this is not something that started with loblgts. the rockets, there's a context here. this system of violence that is the occupation, that is the siege on the gaza strip does not stop. so i think until that is challenged, until that is fu fundamentally changed, it's disingenuous to talk about these rockets here. >> thank you for being with us, executive director of the jerusalem fund, appreciate your time. coming up, congress is leaving for a five-week break and so far the house has passed a bill to sue the president. >> i mean everybody recognizes this is a political stunt. >> are you willing to let any president choose what laws to execute and what laws to change?
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why she fled guatemala in 2009. she's joined by her immigration attorney. and we're joined bring the executive director of we count, an agency that helps undocumented immigrants. >> tell me what went through your mind when you decided to leave and that journey to the united states. >> good morning. i decided to leave guatemala because someone tried to sexual abuse of me and a lot of -- >> you and a friend were walking, you were very, very young. and someone in your town tried to rape you, correct? >> yes. >> and no one wanted to help? >> no. >> no one, no government official was willing to step in and help. is this unusual? is this something that has never happened to children before?
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>> actually it's really common, it happens a lot, a lot of times. but a lot of times the people don't do nothing or the police don't do nothing over there in guatemala. >> brian, you represent two other children who testified at this hearing on tuesday. what's the biggest challenge for you as an immigration attorney zealing with these cases of children? >> there's two big problems. first, to get the children to open up about what happened to them in the past. they have to -- we have to build trust with the children so they tell us what happened and so we can see if they're eligible for legal relief to stay in the united states so they're not deported to their home countries. and the second biggest challenge is just emotionally, it's very difficult to hear stories every day about how children have been harmed or that they're facing harm if they're deported back to their country. we have over 150 children, clients right now from central america and it's just very difficult for us to hear the
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story, payment, we really enjoy our work, because when we do win a case for a child, it's very rewarding to see how we can affect their lives for the best for the future. >> how many of these children will be allowed to say like dulce? >> i think most of the children from central america will be able to stay. there's two types of deportation defense which is -- for children that have been abandoned, neglected or abused by one or both parents and that's what dulce was awarded. i would say more than half of the children are eligible for this form of relief. our position is that all children who face harm in returning to their country, they should get relief. these are war zones and none of the children should be sent back
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to war zones. >> miami is one of the areas of the country with the largest number of children willing released to parents or family members. the real problems that you have in having these children come forth and tell their story? >> yeah, well, i think -- i live in homestead, which is south of miami, we have a very large guatemala community. i think it's happening around the country, where there are immigrant populations that children are trying to reunite with their families. >> all 50 states are seeing it? >> absolutely. it's very tough for these kids because they're very scared and that's the first thing that you notice in talking with the family and the kids. these kids are afraid, they don't want to go back to their countries. when we ask them what is it that you want, the first thing they say is help us stay here. so what we have been doing is we have been helping the families with the paper work once they're in the custody of the u.s.
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government, in a shelter. >> there are people like notaries, even fake notaries in the latino community many times that are stealing these children and their family's money to fill out paper work that shouldn't cost $2,000 and $3,000. >> they're charging huge money to fill out a few sheets of people and help pull together a few documents that they need. >> are these kids that are crossing over, recidivist, two have been deported in the past? >> we have not seen children that have come to the united states before. every story is different. some of the kids are looking to reunite with family members in the united states. >> nuclear family? >> nuclear family. some of the children are facing serious family situations. others areflees violence from gangs. all of this is on the basis of extreme poverty. and it really begs the question,
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why is it that these young people see no future in their home countries? >> that's such an important question and we have been talking about it every day here on the program. and what would you say to people that say, you know what? i would say i feel bad for you, but this is not a problem the united states should deal with. what would you tell these people who say it's not my problem, it's a guatemalan problem, it's dulce molena's problem. >> it is our problem, but we're just trying to find someone or a place to be safe because over there, there's a lot of violence, i used to see a lot of violence in the streets. and anywhere you could see violence. mostly over there, a lot of gangs in school. in like, you know, there's been a lot of trouble, if you don't do what they tell you, they just want to kill you or do, like,
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bad things to your family. to make you do things that you don't want. and that's something that we know that it's bad and we should not do it. so we just start to run away from it. and sometimes it's hard coming to this country, but i came to this country, my journey was okay, and now i'm happy to find a lawyer who really helped me on everything and i was allowed to get my green card and i really would like all those kids on the border to have the same opportunities i did. because i know they're running from harm and they're trying to reunite with their family, how i did. >> right. dulce, brian, thank you for being with us. appreciate it. president obama telling congress to stop hating as lawmakers pack their bags to
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hogan gidley. hogan, you have heard the president call on congress. good morning. he said the lawsuit is a political stunt, is it or is it not? >> that's a great question, jose, look, there is obviously politics behind everything that's done in washington. nobody on the republican side is talking about impeachment in serious terms, that is, but impeachment itself is a boon politically for both parties. because the republicans -- we all at the end of the day, basically midterm elections are turn out elections, we're trying to drive out the republican base, the problem is while it's a boon politically for politici politicians, the people who suffer the most are americans. this is no different. this lawsuit really isn't going to accomplish or amount to much because it never is going to come to fruition while the president is in office. the real thing republicans could do that would affect the president would be to defund a
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lot of his programs. the problem is they're not going to do that because they don't want to be charged with that type of destruction heading into these midterm elections. >> every time boehner says we do not plan on impeaching the president. then you have somebody from his own party, including north carolina congressman walter jones saying why not impeach, instead of wasting $1 million to $2 million of the taxpayers money, if you're serious, use what the founding fathers gave us, impeach. >> he's in a position of not being able to hold his own caucus together, when you have grass roots and further right wing republicans talking about impeachment. it's scary language to somebody like boehner because he understands the political damage that something like that could have. so he tried to give them a go between, a meet halfway, by filing this lawsuit, a lawsuit that on its merits will likely be dismissed because the courts don't typically get involved, in fact they have never gotten
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involved in political questions. what this congress has to understand, is that each of them were sent to congress by the people who elected them to solve our problems, that same group of people, that same american public, also elected this president as their governing partner. so we expect something from them. and by doing nothing, but taking another five weeks worth of vacation, rather than solving our problems and launching a multimillion dollar lawsuit on our dime, it could cost them come election day, and i think democrats are right in this indication to use those very things against them. >> let's kind of frame this question to both of you, it's about that do nothing congress you talk about. the famous do-nothing congress of 1947 passed 80 laws, in 2011, congress enacted 283 laws and the current 113th congress is on pace to enact even fewer laws, becoming arguably the least productive congress in modern history.
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can we continue this way? is this how we're going to be seeing congress handle policy or lack of it in the future? >> i think unfortunately, we're going to continue this way, and i don't necessarily measure a congress by the numbers of laws they have passed, but by the quality of those laws, did those laws fix our problems, did it put more money in the american people's pockets. did it fix health care? what did it do on energy. there's very real problems that we need to tackle that has to do with quality not necessarily just quantity. who among us gets five weeks of paid vacations so we can go out and stump for our own job. this congress has to realize they're getting further and further separated from what the american people sent them to d.c. to do for us. #. >> and hogan, is this congress actually doing something by not doing something? >> well for the base. they like the fact that they're keeping some of these bills from
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going through because they don't like the bills. but goldie's absolutely right. it's not the number, it's the substance of the bills that they're passing. but look, i do want to address this impeachment deal. this isn't something new, president clinton was actually impeached. george bush had impeachment charges filed against him as well. leadership starts at the top. this president hasn't really led from the front. he has punted to congress on most of his biggest issues from the beginning, and this is the result of a lack of leadership is that we have a congress who say they're doing nothing. >> hogan, goldie, thanks both for being with us this morning. >> thank you. now a word for our digital viewers and we're learning there are al of you out there. our question yesterday to hash tag or not to hash tag. that set off lots of great
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>> edward snowden may be looking for a new home. his temporary one-year asylum in russia expires today. but he has applied for another year in russia. meantime germany's minister is the first to weigh in. he says snowden should cut a deal and return to the u.s. so how likely is that to happen? joining me now from new york, msnbc's ronan farrell, a state department official. i am a huge fan of you, ronan. on twitter you called edward snowden basically russia's couch surfing cousin who refuses to get his own place.
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moscow is -- >> the reality is, edward snowden is not going anywhere. their original rationale for granting him temporary asylum tonights to be more useful for them. this is a way for them to thumb their nose at the united states. and frankly, people who are hard line anti-u.s. on this issue, they say have a human rights argument that he could face persecution if he went back. so they're going to lean on that. >> let's talk about the big picture, relations between russia and the u.s. are at a low point, and the west is placing tougher sanctions against russia with the ukraine crisis. how does snowden's asylum play into the larger crisis in the larger picture? >> it's one more thorn in the the side of the united states. it's one more way that the putin can claim to have the upper hand on human rights issues. but it is a way that they can claim leadership on this and the
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